Showing posts with label Discussion. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Discussion. Show all posts

The question of the whale-bird's eggs

{ Posted on Thursday, August 06, 2009 by Speculative Biologist }
How could a large fully aquatic bird possibly reproduce? This question has been asked by speculative biology writers for quite a while now with not many plausible answers. Live birth is out of the question, seeing as bird lay hard-shelled eggs that could not be replaced by vivipary. Therefore, the possibility of fully aquatic birds has been mostly tossed out the window. Seal-like gannets and other similar creatures that return to land to mate and lay eggs just seem like better ideas. But now, a thread on the Speculative Evolution Forums seems to have produced some interesting ideas for how whale-like birds could actually propagate without needing to return to land.

The discussion began with the suggestion that maybe critiques of Dixon's Vortex are a little too strong and that eggs of such a bird could develop in a way that does not harm the chicks inside. SSJRaptog, a user on the discussion board, suggested that the eggs could have air chambers that allow them to float on the surface like coconuts, with other users suggesting a sticky coating allowing the eggs in a brood to stick together. The main problem with this idea is that they would be easy targets for predators and therefore a vast number of eggs would be required in each clutch or the eggs would need to be attached to coral or mangrove roots so that they are somewhat protected.

The second idea that emerged in the discussion was for the birds to develop a pouch to protect their young. The pouch would either be between the wings with the wings as the folds to the pouch or velcro like feathers protecting the egg clutch (feathers would be required as down is not rigid enough as described by JohnFaa). This concept seems more plausible but the eggs may be subject to deeper waters and slightly more pressure, so it may be just as dangerous as the first.

If this has inspired you to have your own ideas or if you would like to contribute to the discussion, please visit this thread on Speculative Evolution.

Forums for discussion

{ Posted on Thursday, July 23, 2009 by Speculative Biologist }
Besides being able to comment on this blog, you may also join a number of forums dedicated to the discussion of speculative biology and related themes. The Speculative Evolution Forums are a fantastic place for discussion and are an open and interesting community. Currently, SE is administrated by Parasky and Saxophlutist with help from a hard-working moderation team. SE is a large community (186 members with over 30,000 posts at the present time) and is guaranteed to provide interesting topics for discourse. Philosphica Dixonia is another speculative biology discussion site and is maintained primarily by Tim Morris (who has contributed to a number of projects, including Spec and Neocene) and Pavel Volkov (author of the immense Neocene project). The members of PD are dedicated to a very scientific approach to this hypothetical subject and are always ready to help those starting their own projects. You can find the links of all websites mentioned in the sidebar to the right.